Diary of a CLO

Perry Timms - The future of work is human

If you’re interested in why the future of work is human, then this episode is for you. I’m joined by Perry Timms, Founder & Chief Energy Officer, and number 1 most influential HR thinker of 2023. In 2024 Perry was was given the Lifetime Achievement Award from WorldBlu for service to self-managed and democratic, freedom-centred work. We cover why purpose-led work is so important, and what the future has in store at the crossroads of HR & L&D. Enjoy!
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Perry Timms

James Swift - Human centric organisational performance

In this episode I’m joined by James Swift, Head of Talent Development at Leyton, an international consulting firm. James is the type of learning leader we all aspire to be: focused on human-centric organisational performance and consistently showcasing impact through his innovative application of AI. James has developed a model to help people put this into practise themselves, which is focused on organisational performance, what your people need to do, what technology underpins this, the infrastructures in place to support it, and the data or information needed to inform your stakeholders. Otherwise known as the ‘Swift model’. As James says:  People are your greatest cost and therefore need to be your greatest asset. We talk about all this and more. Enjoy.
James Swift
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Radhika Dutt - Radical product thinking

In this episode I’m joined by Radhika Dutt, author of Radical Product Thinking and co-creator of the radical product thinking framework which is a free downloadable toolkit which helps organisations systematically build world-changing products. We talk about the intersection of product and learning, and how learning teams could always do well to think like product developers. Enjoy.
Radical product
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Craig Hamill - Talking male mental health

In this episode I’m joined by Craig Hamill who has been in the L&D industry for over 20 years and has been in both vendor side and in-house roles. We cover what’s going on in the industry right now, but also dive deeper into what can be a taboo subject for some people and organisations: male mental health. Craig is a great advocate of talking, building connections and sharing, and we talk about the benefits each of these can bring. Enjoy.
Craig Hamill
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Hannah Litt - Creating safe spaces at work

In this episode I’m joined by award-winning social justice activist and a seasoned leader in diversity, inclusion, and anti-racism - Hannah Litt. Hannah’s purpose-driven journey has been fuelled by a commitment to creating positive change, and Hannah now helps guide organisations to create cultures that value and celebrate diversity, unity, and collective healing. As a South Asian, Muslim woman from the East African diaspora with ADHD, OCD, and hidden disabilities, Hannah combines lived experiences with strategic knowledge in people-led functions and employee experience. We explore Hannah’s journey and hopes for the future in this episode. Enjoy.
Hannah Litt
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Dean Jackson - Thinking people and culture first

In this episode I’m joined by Dean Jackson, Director of Global People & Culture (Digital Experience) at Coca-Cola Europacific. Dean has built a career in digital workplace technology, with a focus on people and culture. With a huge depth of experience and enthusiasm for people experience, Dean is a really forward-thinking leader, and recognises the nuances of the range of audiences he serves in his role. Myth busting. Desire for change. Culture creation. We cover it all. Enjoy.
Dean Jackson
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Margie Meacham - The Brain Lady

In this episode I’m joined by Margie Meacham, otherwise known as “the brain lady”. Margie effectively bridges the gaps between neuroscience, AI and instructional design to help people think more holistically about how and why they are designing learning. We cover all of that in this episode, and look at what the future might hold for learning experience design. Enjoy.
Margie Meacham
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Pauline Rebourgeon - Learning at the forefront of innovation

In this episode I’m joined by Pauline Rebourgeon, Head of Learning Technology and Innovation at Ericsson. If you can imagine someone who epitomises what a successful L&D professional should look like, Pauline is your lady. With a role that intersects across innovation, technology and community-building, the work Pauline is doing - particularly in the AI coaching and skills space - is so inspiring. If you’re looking to hear from a forward-thinking learning leader, this episode is for you. Enjoy.
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Dr Adrienne Milner - Data driven diversity and inclusion

In this episode I’m joined by Dr Adrienne Milner, who is an expert in all things culture and policy change in the DE&I space. Her colleagues at UNTHINK affectionately call Adrienne the ‘DEI doc’ and she uses advanced statistics and qualitative methodology to help organisations and individuals show true impact in this space - something that is so needed right now. We dig into all of that and more. Enjoy.
UNTHINK
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Dr Charlotte Rae - Making four day weeks work

In this episode I’m joined by Dr Charlotte Rae, a psychologist at the University of Sussex, who specialises in the biology of wellbeing. In particular, she studies how our working lives interact with our physical and mental health. Charlotte created the Sussex 4 Day Week project to study the effects that a 4 day working week has on staff, from brain function to sleep, and how these underpin performance at work. Charlotte uses her research insights to help employers trial a 4 day week, supporting early questions through to implementing a new working schedule and assessing success. We delve into all of this and more. Enjoy.
 Sussex 4 Day Week 
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